Episode 11

John 15:10 | Obedience Is Not the Price of Love. It Is the Shape of It.

This verse sounds like the other shoe dropping. Keep my commandments and you will remain in my love. But Jesus is not adding a condition to the love. He is describing the posture that keeps you in it.

The love is not the reward for obedience. The love is the environment. And obedience is how you stay there. Jesus models it with his own life: just as I have kept my Father's commandments and remain in his love.

For anyone who has been performing for God instead of living with God, this episode reframes the whole relationship.

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Ryan Loche

Dr. Ryan Loche (PhD) is a worship pastor, professor, and theologian helping worship leaders and everyday disciples be formed by Scripture over time. He leads The Church Collective, a training network for worship, creative, and production leaders. Ryan’s work centers on worship as formation before expression and the slow, faithful transformation of becoming like Jesus.